Police investigators released clips of the audio and video footage to the public. (AP) An Indiana judge imposed a gag order on Friday in the case of a man charged in thenotorious slayings of two MORE, VIDEO: Update on Delphi Murders suspect Richard Allen. If not, I get it, believe me! LE then searched his apartment and turned it upside down in the process. We have no idea why he was fired or why the apartment was searched. I dont know about blood stains, but there were absolutely some fresh flowers left in the barn that looked like a memorial to us. Kline reportedly admitted to using a fake account to talk with underage girls but denied any involvement in German or William's murders. Perhaps word got out that if this girl became obviously pregnant, and the 14 year old girls male guardian was threatening to either harm or kill Mr. F or lock him up. Despite the arrest of Mr Allen, officials stress the investigation is still ongoing and that they will keep the tip line open on both phone and email, encouraging more members of the public to come forward with any additional information. The other three had varying levels of participation that could be peripheral and innocent or some degree of worse. The trial for the suspect accused of murdering two girls in Delphi, Indiana, nearly six years ago will use jurors bused in from another county, a judge ruled Friday. Their bodies were found in a wooded area around half a mile off the trail the next day. I just donated! Local residents reacted with shock when news broke on Friday of Richard Allens arrest on Friday, saying that he seemed like a normal guy. That is, the facts below will be posed mostly as hypotheticals, theories, possible theories, and most of all, questions. Lafayette Journal & Courier's Ron Wilkins contributed to this report. Bottom line is a girl was pregnant is absolutely the key to this crime. A self-identified inside source spoke out from a fake Facebook account under the name \"Leigh Kerr.\" This individual provided the Delphi Murder leaks and released new information on the case; however, these details haven't been corroborated.Many persons of interest have been named in this case: Charles Eldridge, James Chadwell, and Paul Etter. I always thought maybe they did, but I never knew they took us so seriously. The Indiana State Police did confirm there is a dive team in the area and that it is located a few miles from 28-year-old Kegan Kline's family home. One of the witnesses told investigators she said "hi" to the man, but he just glared at them. The witness told investigators it appeared he had gotten into a fight. Hi, Robert. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. Mr Allen, 50, has pleaded not guilty to the charges and is said to be refusing to cooperate with the investigation. Google The Delphi murders/reddit/images. The murderer was or is definitely local or at least knew the trail. The walkway they crossed was pretty damaged and he must have had prior experience of walking it, as he crossed it pretty quickly. Allen, 50, who worked as a pharmacy technician at CVS in Delphi, a town of about 3,000 people, has been charged with two counts of murder. The grandfather of victim Libby German has spoken out about learning that his granddaughters suspected killer was hiding in plain sight in the close-knit Delphi community this whole time. He is listed by police as a possible suspect in the crime. Anybody would tell you that,resident A.J. However, I can now that as an absolute fact that one of the murdered girls, the 14 year old, was pregnant. Indiana State Police would only confirm they have a dive team in the area. Members of the public were urged to continue to submit tips not only about Richard Allen but about any other information regarding the case. Most of them looked like they had just seen a ghost. 1. I did not figure out who the man was in the tan pants with light blue shirt and a hand gun. A MAN was reportedly arrested in connection to the murders of 14-year-old Liberty German and 13-year-old Abigail Williams who were killed in 2017. An ejected .40-caliber shell found near one of the victim's bodies ties suspect Richard Allen to the 2017 killing of Delphi teens Libby German or Abby Williams, (11/29/22) MORE, VIDEO: Prosecutors in the case of murdered teen girls Abby Williams and Libby German say defendant Richard Allen may have had an accomplice. Say they dont know him. If any other person had any involvement in the murders in any way, that person will be held accountable, said Indiana State Police Supt Doug Carter. Mr Allen has entered a preliminary plea of not guilty and is police remind the press conference that he is innocent until proven guilty. An ejected .40-caliber shell found near one of the victim's bodies ties suspect Richard Allen to the 2017killing of Delphi teens Libby German or Abby Williams, according to the probable cause affidavit released Tuesday. Police in Indiana have charged a 50-year-old local man with the 2017 Delphi murders more than five years after the bodies of best friends Libby German and Abby Williams were found close to a wooded trail. On February 13, 2017, Abigail Williams and Liberty German were tragically murdered while visiting the Monon High Bridge in Delphi, IN. There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. (Court TV) Citing intense public scrutiny and media attention following a press release by the defense, prosecutors in MORE, By Michelle Kaufman CARROLL COUNTY (WRTV) The judge in the Delphi double murder case has granted a request by the defendant, Richard Allen, that MORE, DELPHI, Ind. He is due back in court in 13 January 2023 for a pre-trial hearing. These agencies have invested countless hours and resources into this investigation. Monday 31 October 2022 14:05 , Oliver O'Connell. Man arrested over Delphi murders pictured with police sketch of suspect in background. Shocking New Rumor Adds More Weight to the Connection between the Delphi and Evansdale Murders As we noted in previous posts, observation of the blown View our online Press Pack. The photo apparently featured the coroner with the bodies of the two girls. Second, warning: I will be discussing some truly horrendous and even disgusting things below, so if you cant handle it, dont read. In a statement posted on her Facebook page, she wrote: I want to thank the Indiana State Police and all the other law enforcement and community partners who have worked tirelessly to find closure for the families of Libby German and Abby Williams. He doesn't have anything more than a bunch of crazy theories and a bit of creative writing based on his own sick fantasies. Indiana State Police said that the briefing will begin promptly at 10am EST. charging Richard Allen in the 2017 murders of Libby German and Abby Williams in Delphi. The FBI search warrant, obtained by theMurder Sheetpodcast and released toIndianapolis FOX59 did not provide information describing what the murder weapon might be or the cause of death. He has since been moved to a state facility for his own safety. What if perhaps Mr. F was pressuring the girl to abort the baby, and the girl was balking? Remember those rumors about one girl being gutted and partially disembowled with a gut knife? Allen had no explanation how a shell ejected from his sidearm was found at the scene of the crime, according to the affidavit. The warrant says it is likely the killer had blood stains on his clothes, although no one has ever been arrested for the girls' murders. Yes, although I would call him the 20 year old man. He seems like a normal guy, he said. Is it possible that LE could be looking into these three young men as suspects, but in this case a lesser quality of suspects, possible suspects, too? Authorities conducted a nationwide search and received over 26k tips in the first year, but with scarce evidence, the killer was never found. National interest in the Delphi murders reached a fever pitch when law enforcement released a brief clip from Libertys phone, which appeared to have recorded a blue jean-clad male approaching the pair while saying, Down the hill.. The murder(s) probably didnt find the tiny fetus. Maybe they told people they just wanted to scare the girls. It consists of unverified rumors, albeit very long-lasting ones. When she was driving away, she said she saw a vehicle parked in an "odd manner" at the former Child Protective Services building, with the vehicle backed in near the building. Richard Allen has been pictured in his mugshot following his arrest for the 2017 murders of Libby German and Abby Williams in Delphi. Close friends with J and Misters B, Q, and F. Police say he is a possible suspect in this crime. "What we're hearing from sources indicates that this is connected," said Aine Cain, co-host of The Murder Sheet. Victims captured video of man before murders. In addition, a young man seen by a female witness at the south side of the bridge at 12:30 PM in the day of the murders. A lot of people are saying this. The crime scene was probably set up by these young men no more than 24 hours before the crime. Monday 31 October 2022 17:10 , Rachel Sharp. The 12 pages of court documents include the decision to release a redacted version, murder charges and probable cause affidavit. On Oct. 31, 2022, police announced they arrested and charged 50-year-old Delphi resident Richard Allen with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. Company. For the first time, a man has been arrested and charged with the 2017 murders of the teenagers. The tool marks on the shell match a pistol owned by Allen, according to the affidavit, which had some redactions. How about this for a hypothesis? Authorities say the investigation is still underway but they plan to release additional information at a press conference on October 31, 2022. The witness said she also saw a man matching the one in German's video. October 28th was the day.. In a move that propelled the investigation forward, Libby German captured a grainy video on her phone of a man dressed in blue jeans, a blue jacket and a cap walking along the Topics on the docket include a gag order, discovery requests and the MORE, By: Judge Ashley Willcott DELPHI, IN. He has been incredibly helpful to us. However, Supt Carter added that today is not a day to celebrate as Libby and Abbys families are still forced to go on without them. I wouldn't put any stock in what he claims. Libby, 14, and Abby, 13, were murdered after setting off on a hike along the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi on 13 February 2017. He is due back in court in January 202 for a pre-trial hearing. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. The podcast reported that it is the investigator's belief that photos or videos were likely shot of the staged bodies to "memorialize" the crime scene. The thing is that the composites of the Catfish Boy and the young man seen at the bridge above are almost perfect matches of each other. Thanks. I was afraid this event had political undertones. In that case, LE would be looking at a murder involving one older man and three young men, or four people. Someone else might have mentioned this, I am new to the posts. Perhaps these young men were more involved than that. Also, I wish to make these posts less egocentric. 2023 www.indystar.com. Both of those girls were growing up way, way too fast. After all, a gut knife included in the five knives that BG has in that deer kit he is wearing around his waist. The next day Valentines Day 2017 their bodies were discovered in a wooded area around half a mile off the trail. Why was the tree gouged out like a beaver had sawed on it with teeth? The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. "A large amount of blood was lost by the victims at the crime scene," the FBI search warrant read. He is closely associated with Mr. X. WebIt was my understanding that a local news channel had posted 1 crime scene photo to their Facebook page, and that it was of clothing in the creek. (1/12/23) MORE, By ARLEIGH RODGERS Associated Press/Report for America DELPHI, Ind. Didnt know, I dont know the gentleman personally at all. On Friday, October 28, 2022, Allen was formally charged with two counts of murder and transported to the White County Jail, where he is currently being held without bond. Mr Allen, 50, is a trained pharmaceutical technician and worked at the local CVS store in the heart of the small town, home to only around 3,000 residents. What if a search party member reported that it was true that one of the girls was seen in this condition at the crime scene? Libby German, 14, and Abby Wiliams, 13, went missing on 13 February 2017 after they set off on a hike along the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, Indiana. 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He was interrogated by police soon after the crime. Police also believe that he helped set up the scary and bizarre crime scene. First of all, all of this information under the Keys to the Crime and the Motive heading, except for some, came from the police. Monday 31 October 2022 14:14 , Oliver O'Connell. Instead statements are posed as hypotheticals, theories, possible theories, and above all questions. (ninja edit because phone is stupid and changed my initial "wouldn't" to "would". They say the state doesnt have the evidence it needs. DELPHI, Ind. Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland had previously asked a judge to keep all court records from the public even before he filed murder charges. During the walk, Libby posted a photo of her best friend walking along the Monon High Bridge. We now know at least the motive and why certain things were done. The investigation is far from complete, state police superintendent Doug Carter said at a news conference on Monday as he urged the community to come forward with more information. Everything we know about the Delphi murders and arrest of Richard Allen, Monday 31 October 2022 18:30 , Rachel Sharp. The trail is located in a secluded area of Delphi, Indiana, and spans eight miles of densely populated woods. The murderer would have been covered in the victims blood in the aftermath of the slayings due to the large amount of blood was lost by the victims at the crime scene, it reads. Allen told investigators he did not speak with the girls as he walked from the Freedom Bridge to the High Bridge. Some people are upset at the way iPhones charge. He has a criminal record mostly for repeated drunk driving offenses. Police release video, sketch and audio of suspect in Delphi double murder, New details in Delphi double murder investigation revealed in police interview obtained by podcast, Police investigating Delphi murders search for anyone who talked to man using anthony_shots profile. pic.twitter.com/dJMlOj3Whs, Kelsi German (@libertyg_sister) October 31, 2022, Monday 31 October 2022 15:30 , Rachel Sharp. They also speak using a lot of cryptic statements. Investigators released a grainy image from the video and a chilling audio of the man telling the two girls: Go down the hill., This grainy image was taken on Libbys phone on the trail the day the girls went missing. Monday 31 October 2022 19:51 , Rachel Sharp. Here is the full statement regarding the arrest of Richard Allen. A vehicle that resembled Allen's 2016 Ford Focus was also seen on video going west on County Road 300 North at 1:27 p.m. Allen was again interviewed by investigators on Oct. 13, 2022. Mr. F was looking at possible incarceration for banging a 14 year old girl and then 18 years of child support. Mr. P: Mr. P was a 26 year old man at the time of the crime, now 30 years old. Sociopathy and Psychopathy as They Relate to LE Officers, VIDEO: Danse Macabre! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJpL25ygt8c, Mr. F the 20 year old boy who impregnated the 14 year old. There were many grown men at those parties, including many who may have had no qualms about having sex with a 13-14 year old girl. Carter said in a press conference: "We know a lot about you today could be the day -- sleep well.". It refrained from noting how the girls had died and only said there were no signs of a "struggle or fight.". On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. As of 2022, they are looking for information from anyone who interacted with Kline's fake accounts. Just like a normal guy that Ive seen for the last couple years, not really thinking anything.. I've read several places online that at least one photo from the crime scene was uploaded to a forum, then quickly taken down. One of the witnesses said the man had something covering his mouth. They added that Allen had been moved to a state facility for his own safety. The police think he is the man who actually conducted the murders, and they also think he is the man on the bridge. The bodies of Libby and Abby were discovered on February 14, 2017, along an abandoned railroad in Delphi, Indiana. This is why. She chased him off her property. Mr. Q: Another young man, friends with J and Misters F, B, and P, who helped set up the bizarre crime scene. He again told them he was on the trail Feb. 13, 2017. He is closely associated with one of the families. Mr Allen bears some likeness to the drawing. The witness said she didn't see any other adults than the man on the bridge. We have learned that the police are investigating who in the police is leaking to us, which shows our facts are correct. Is it possible that the killer was a very avid deer hunter? If a girl was disembowled and had her abdominal contents removed, a scalpel would have proven handy in that operation in order to cut away tissue. Tips can be submitted to abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or by calling 765-822-3535. Delphi murders investigation timeline: Delphi murders investigation timeline: Review the case through 5 years of reporting Allen, whom prosecutors charged Details about the scene have been withheld, but investigators were disturbed by what they found. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvhKS1eRIMM. Im ready to learn more info. So when I say, we, I am saying this is what the whole group thinks. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Thanks for contacting us. The 14 year old had a cousin, M., who was taking her to bonfire parties where there was a lot of drugs and drinking for a few years from 12-14. A witness said she was driving east on 300 North on Feb. 13, 2017 when she saw a man wearing a blue-colored jacket and blue jeans, who was muddy and bloody. I received more abuse for this statement than for anything else I wrote about this crime. Monday 31 October 2022 18:50 , Rachel Sharp. The man in the recording is heard telling the girls: "Down the hill" in the moments before they died. The Delphi murders have confounded investigators in the five years since Williams and German's bodies were found and in 2018, the head of the Indiana State Police Office, Doug Carter, told the IndyStar that he believed they were "one piece of the puzzle away from figuring out who this individual is. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Officials would not rule out the possibility that other individuals were also involved in the brutal murders of Libby German and Abby Williams and vowed that if the investigation leads them to other suspects they will also face charges. She acknowledged, however, that it would be difficult, if not impossible to find Carroll County jurors who were not impacted by the tragic case, and agreed to bus a jury in from another county. That doesnt solve the case and thats not even enough to make an arrest. RELATED | New details in Delphi double murder investigation revealed in police interview obtained by podcast. We are doing this to protect the suspect and possible suspects, who are factually all presently innocent of committing this crime, from harassment and harm. The family of one of the Delphi victims has revealed that they had an encounter with the man now accused of her murder, as they accused him of hiding in plain sight the whole time. His defense team is speaking out. Fourth, The term guardian below refers to either a mother, a grandmother, or a grandfather. What are your thoughts on the Mears Barn being the site of this terrible attack? WebIn this special installment of True Crime Daily The Podcast: An update on the Delphi murder case. Monday 31 October 2022 14:13 , Oliver O'Connell, Richard Allen is facing two counts of murder in the Delphi Investigation @WNDU pic.twitter.com/FE4U1npkyp, Lauren Moss WNDU (@LMossWNDU) October 31, 2022, Monday 31 October 2022 14:11 , Oliver O'Connell. 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